<?xml version='1.0' encoding='UTF-8'?><?xml-stylesheet href="http://www.blogger.com/styles/atom.css" type="text/css"?><feed xmlns='http://www.w3.org/2005/Atom' xmlns:openSearch='http://a9.com/-/spec/opensearchrss/1.0/'><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post1194994427404260231..comments</id><updated>2008-06-15T17:17:33.483-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Comments on Andrew Arrow: Coding in java after a two year affair with ruby</title><link rel='http://schemas.google.com/g/2005#feed' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/feeds/1194994427404260231/comments/default'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html'/><author><name>Andrew Arrow</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06014911824850011214</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><generator version='7.00' uri='http://www.blogger.com'>Blogger</generator><openSearch:totalResults>7</openSearch:totalResults><openSearch:startIndex>1</openSearch:startIndex><openSearch:itemsPerPage>25</openSearch:itemsPerPage><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-3931118182224239091</id><published>2008-06-15T17:17:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-15T17:17:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>Remembers me to Monty Python: "No it isn't, Argume...</title><content type='html'>Remembers me to Monty Python: "No it isn't, Argument is an intellectual process ... contradiction is just the automatic gainsaying of anything the other person says."&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Where's your point, man? Comparing the all-new-Ruby to legacy-Java you could be doing better than that.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3931118182224239091'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3931118182224239091'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1213575420000#c3931118182224239091' title=''/><author><name>Georgi</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/14147510898520565363</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-3773648718708801864</id><published>2008-06-02T16:12:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-02T16:12:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>@Peter Lawry --I agree that IDEA makes Java almost...</title><content type='html'>@Peter Lawry --&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;I agree that IDEA makes Java almost nice to work in (and of the several Ruby IDEs I have tried, none comes close to IDEA for Java). Still, even though Andrew's observations about Ruby are taking a lot of flack on DZone, after coding in Java for years , I find the freedom of Ruby liberating for many of the same seemingly trivial reasons as Andrew.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3773648718708801864'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3773648718708801864'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1212448320000#c3773648718708801864' title=''/><author><name>tomh</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/06009992484645543666</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-3344399855331406870</id><published>2008-06-01T23:13:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-01T23:13:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I can only guess you haven't been using IntelliJ. ...</title><content type='html'>I can only guess you haven't been using IntelliJ.  It does 1,2,3,4,5 for you.&lt;BR/&gt;Point 6 is a good point, but it can be easily supported in other ways.&lt;BR/&gt;Point 7, These are interesting points.  Some of these features will be in Java 7 and other should be considered.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;"you have to compile it!"&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Actually, you don't have to compile Java and you can compile Ruby.  This doesn't have anything to do with the language.&lt;BR/&gt;People compile their code because they don't have automated tests which checked that every line of code is valid. However I assume you don't care about whether your code would compile or not.</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3344399855331406870'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3344399855331406870'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1212387180000#c3344399855331406870' title=''/><author><name>Peter Lawrey</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17982030676088168612</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-6037071924057859732</id><published>2008-06-01T07:51:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-01T07:51:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>You can't compare Java with Ruby,Java is pretty fa...</title><content type='html'>You can't compare Java with Ruby,&lt;BR/&gt;Java is pretty faster, and you can use it everywhere.&lt;BR/&gt;For me Ruby is a bullshit, very nice code with very bad performance.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Did you like Ruby's sugar-code ? Go to Groovy (Java-based) , you will love it more than Ruby ;)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/6037071924057859732'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/6037071924057859732'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1212331860000#c6037071924057859732' title=''/><author><name>Firas</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13698340804278028146</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-3439946665240084013</id><published>2008-06-01T07:50:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-01T07:50:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>You can't compare Java with Ruby,Java is pretty fa...</title><content type='html'>You can't compare Java with Ruby,&lt;BR/&gt;Java is pretty faster, and you can use it everywhere.&lt;BR/&gt;For me Ruby is a bullshit, very nice code with very bad performance.&lt;BR/&gt;&lt;BR/&gt;Did you like Ruby's sugar-code ? Go to Groovy (Java-based) , you will love it more than Ruby ;)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3439946665240084013'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/3439946665240084013'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1212331800000#c3439946665240084013' title=''/><author><name>Firas</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/13698340804278028146</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-4903078028222945176</id><published>2008-06-01T04:42:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-06-01T04:42:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>@shawn, whats wrong with jruby ? :)</title><content type='html'>@shawn, whats wrong with jruby ? :)</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/4903078028222945176'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/4903078028222945176'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1212320520000#c4903078028222945176' title=''/><author><name>Geraldo Lopes</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/17836965570748002530</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry><entry><id>tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-6390343582640400056</id><published>2008-05-31T23:20:00.000-07:00</published><updated>2008-05-31T23:20:00.000-07:00</updated><title type='text'>I know I'm asking for it... but seriously... have ...</title><content type='html'>I know I'm asking for it... but seriously... have you tried http://groovy.codehaus.org/ ... no really, What did you think?</content><link rel='edit' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/6390343582640400056'/><link rel='self' type='application/atom+xml' href='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/1194994427404260231/comments/default/6390343582640400056'/><link rel='alternate' type='text/html' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html?showComment=1212301200000#c6390343582640400056' title=''/><author><name>Shawn Hartsock</name><uri>http://www.blogger.com/profile/07041739178513685832</uri><email>noreply@blogger.com</email></author><thr:in-reply-to xmlns:thr='http://purl.org/syndication/thread/1.0' href='http://andrewarrow.blogspot.com/2008/05/coding-in-java-after-two-year-affair.html' ref='tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2332084453546036942.post-1194994427404260231' source='http://www.blogger.com/feeds/2332084453546036942/posts/default/1194994427404260231' type='text/html'/></entry></feed>